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Welcome to Orlando Stoics
Orlando Stoics is an active community of more than 5,000 members, with several meetings held each week. Some events take place in person, while others are held online. All meetings and classes are free.
What Is Stoicism?
Stoicism is a practical school of philosophy founded in Athens around 300 BCE by Zeno of Citium. It teaches that a good life is built upon wisdom, character, and virtue. Stoics seek to live in accordance with nature and reason while practicing courage, justice, self-control, and resilience.
Our discussions draw from ancient Stoic thinkers such as Seneca, Epictetus, and Marcus Aurelius, as well as modern writers and practitioners.
Why Study Stoicism?
In a world of constant stimulation, instant gratification, and endless distraction, Stoicism offers a different way of approaching life. It teaches us to distinguish between what is within our control and what is not, respond thoughtfully rather than impulsively, and preserve our character during difficult circumstances.
We also explore connections between Stoicism and Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism, Existentialism, Minimalism, psychology, and other traditions concerned with philosophy as a way of life. Our meetings encourage thoughtful questions, respectful disagreement, and in-depth discussion.
What We Do
- Read and discuss ancient and modern works on Stoicism.
- Examine Stoic themes in literature, art, media, and popular culture.
- Compare Stoic ideas with insights from history, religion, psychology, and other philosophical traditions.
Stoicism has influenced people from many different backgrounds, including writers, political leaders, soldiers, activists, and ordinary people seeking to live with greater clarity and purpose. Its appeal lies not in promising an easy life, but in helping us meet life’s difficulties with sound judgment, resilience, and integrity.
Joining the Group
Our group is open to the public, and there are no membership or subscription fees. Because we post new meetings frequently, Meetup notifications may generate more emails than you prefer. You can adjust them by visiting our Meetup page, selecting “You’re a Member,” and then choosing “Group Notifications.” You may turn off the emails and still visit the page whenever you would like to see upcoming events.
Whether you are completely new to Stoicism or have studied it for years, you are welcome to join us.
We hope to see you at an upcoming meeting.
Upcoming events
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What Would Count as Evidence?
·OnlineOnlineIf consciousness is known only from the inside, then no test run from the outside can settle the question. This week the group looks for what would count as evidence anyway. All three thinkers are working philosophers rather than commentators, and each leaves behind something that can be checked. We begin with Thomas Nagel. In "What Is It Like to Be a Bat?" (1974) he grants that bats have experience and then shows that we cannot say what it is. A bat navigates by echo, a sense with no human counterpart, and imagining ourselves hanging in an attic tells us only what it would be like for us to behave as a bat behaves. The trouble is not that bats are exotic. It is that experience belongs to a point of view, and objectivity advances precisely by leaving points of view behind.
We then turn to Hilary Putnam, who moves the difficulty from experience to meaning. In "The Meaning of ‘Meaning’" (1975) he imagines Twin Earth, identical to ours down to the last person, except that the liquid in its rivers is not H2O but XYZ. Oscar and his twin are in the same mental state when each says water, yet each is talking about a different substance. Meaning is therefore not fixed inside the head. It depends on causal contact with the stuff and on a division of labor with people who can tell gold from pyrite. The group’s live question follows directly. A model trained on text alone has contact with the words for things and not with the things. Stevan Harnad named this the symbol grounding problem in 1990, and Emily Bender and Alexander Koller sharpened it in 2020 with an octopus that learns to answer flawlessly from eavesdropped messages and fails the moment it is asked to build something out of coconuts and rope.
Finally we will discuss David Chalmers, who converts the question into a list. In "Could a Large Language Model Be Conscious?" (2023) he sets the hard problem aside and asks instead what mainstream theories of consciousness would demand of a machine. Biology. Sensory grounding. A world model and a self model. Recurrent processing. A global workspace. Unified agency. Current systems plainly lack most of these. Giving each requirement roughly a one in three chance of being real, he arrives at a credence under ten percent for today’s models and twenty five percent or more for their successors within a decade. He adds that the indicators are borrowed from theories never tested against each other. In 2025 they were. The Cogitate collaboration, which Chalmers took part in, challenged central claims of both global workspace and integrated information theory.
Links
Thomas Nagel
• "What Is It Like to Be a Bat?" (1974, The Philosophical Review 83:4, 435-450): https://www.jstor.org/stable/2183914
• Full text, University of Connecticut: https://philosophy.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/365/2020/03/Nagel-What-is-it-like-to-be-a-bat.pdf
• "What Is It Like to Be a Bat?", Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_It_Like_to_Be_a_Bat%3F
• Consciousness, Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consciousness/
• Thomas Nagel, Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_NagelHilary Putnam
• "The Meaning of ‘Meaning’" (1975, Minnesota Studies in the Philosophy of Science 7, 131-193): https://hdl.handle.net/11299/185225
• Twin Earth thought experiment, Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Earth_thought_experiment
• Externalism About Mental Content, Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/content-externalism/
• Stevan Harnad, "The Symbol Grounding Problem" (1990, Physica D 42, 335-346): https://arxiv.org/abs/cs/9906002
• Emily Bender and Alexander Koller, "Climbing towards NLU" (2020, ACL): https://aclanthology.org/2020.acl-main.463
• Hilary Putnam, Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilary_PutnamDavid Chalmers
• "Could a Large Language Model Be Conscious?" (2023, Boston Review, from a NeurIPS lecture given in 2022): https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.07103
• The Boston Review version: https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/could-a-large-language-model-be-conscious/
• "Facing Up to the Problem of Consciousness" (1995, Journal of Consciousness Studies 2:3, 200-219): http://consc.net/papers/facing.html
• Patrick Butlin, Robert Long and others, "Consciousness in Artificial Intelligence: Insights from the Science of Consciousness" (2023): https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.08708
• Cogitate Consortium, "Adversarial testing of global neuronal workspace and integrated information theories of consciousness" (2025, Nature 642, 133-142): https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12137136
• "Taking AI Welfare Seriously" (2024), with Chalmers among the authors: https://arxiv.org/abs/2411.00986
• David Chalmers, Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_ChalmersTimezones
6:00 AM Pacific (USA), 7:00 AM Mountain (USA), 8:00 AM Central (USA), 9:00 AM Eastern (USA)About Our Group
We welcome open minded, respectful conversation on Stoicism and its relevance to daily life, personal growth, and modern thought. Our discussions connect ancient philosophy with contemporary science, psychology, economics, and culture with the shared aim of cultivating wisdom together. The meeting begins at 9:00 AM Eastern, with dialogue starting promptly at 9:1513 attendees
How to Be a Friend: An Ancient Guide to True Friendship Part V - Final
·OnlineOnlineFriendship plays a central role in Stoic philosophy. While the Stoics viewed virtue as the foundation of a flourishing life, they also recognized that meaningful friendships enrich our lives and provide opportunities to practice wisdom, justice, courage, and temperance.
Cicero's essay On Friendship (De Amicitia) raises questions that are still relevant today: What makes a true friend? How many friends should we have? Can friendship exist without virtue? During this session, we will discuss excerpts from the first fifty paragraphs of the book.
We'll explore a number of questions that sit at the heart of the essay. What is the foundation of a friendship, and where does our desire for it come from in the first place? Laelius argues that genuine friendship exists only between good people, so we'll ask what he really means by "good." We'll also consider questions that feel especially modern: what role does self-reliance play in friendships today, should we avoid having too many friends, and how can the friendships we keep help us become better people?
It helps to know the cast of characters behind the essay. The author is Marcus Tullius Cicero, who dedicates the work to his closest friend, Titus Pomponius Atticus. The main speaker is Gaius Laelius, who reflects on his deep bond with his best friend Scipio Aemilianus (Africanus the Younger), the model of ideal friendship throughout the piece. The essay itself unfolds as Laelius responds to questions posed by two younger men, Gaius Fannius and Quintus Mucius Scaevola.
No prior reading is required. We'll provide excerpts during the meeting and discuss them together.
English translations- Perseus Digital Library (W.A. Falconer translation, with section navigation): https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2007.01.0041
- Wikisource (free English translation): https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Laelius_on_Friendship
- Online Library of Liberty (Peabody translation, 1887, with PDF/EPUB options): https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/cicero-on-friendship-de-amicitia
Latin original
- Wikisource (Latin text): https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Laelius_on_Friendship
Join us Monday at 7:00–8:30 p.m. Eastern (EDT)
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ONLINE / SPANISH: LAS MEDITACIONES DE MARCO AURELIO
·OnlineOnlineCada miércoles abrimos un espacio para leer juntos Las Meditaciones y conversar sobre cómo estas ideas pueden alegrar y fortalecer nuestra vida diaria.
No necesitas preparación previa, solo ganas de escuchar, compartir y disfrutar.
Ven con tu libro, tu café y tu sonrisa. ¡La tertulia se vuelve más bonita contigo!ZONAS HORARIAS
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+1 301 715 8592 USNuestro grupo disfruta de conversaciones abiertas y respetuosas sobre el estoicismo y su relación con la ciencia, la cultura, la filosofía, otros sistemas de creencias e incluso la cultura popular (libros y películas). A veces "acordamos estar en desacuerdo", pero el objetivo a largo plazo es mejorar nuestras mentes a través de debates grupales.
En general, el estoicismo nos enseña cómo manejar personas y eventos difíciles, cómo evitar la ira y la preocupación y, sobre todo, a utilizar la moderación en todos los aspectos de nuestra vida.
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